Wednesday, October 03, 2012
12th Article of Faith: We believe (unless we don't)
Was it LDS Liberty that justified Plural Marriage?
More nonsense from LDS Liberty. They recommend replacing the US Pledge of Allegiance with some pseudo-Religious propaganda instead. The suggested "covenant" smacks of something that shouldn't be here at all. I am ashamed to realize that such a poorly-considered idea comes from someone that I early on attempted to inculcate with the principles embodied in the Scout Oath. I was apparently a poor teacher.
I Pledge Allegiance to the Title of Liberty
Posted on June 29, 2012 by JC Bollers
We invite all who have entered the path toward eternal life to affirm their faithfulness to the covenant of liberty upon this land by pledging allegiance to the Title of Liberty that the blessings of liberty may rest upon our nation. We know that as we make only God our king take upon ourselves the name of Christ in all things both public and private and live his commandments in faith, that he will protect us, prosper us and number us among his covenant people. We proclaim that the understanding and performance of the very substance of this Title of Liberty will save this nation.
The following is an example of a covenant that we can make to affirm our allegiance to this standard:
“I covenant to sustain and establish the Title of Liberty and that I will not forsake God or be ashamed to take upon myself the name of Christ. And if I fall into transgression may the Lord rend me as I rend my garment.
Then Connor goes on to explain why the Pledge is socialist propaganda, and he refuses to participate at all.
Connor Boyack: Why I Do Not Pledge Allegiance to the Flag
Again this raises problems with the 12th Article of Faith and is inconsistent with established Church policy.
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
Reference to the 12th Article of Faith always brings up a specious question about Plural marriage, and the guys at LDS Liberty never miss that opportunity.
- negates the 12th Article of Faith
Shiloh Logan The 8th Article of Faith actually vindicates and validates the 12th Article of Faith -- if you are honest and consistent to the message.
Charity Angel Do you know who is in this picture? Just curious because I know one of my ancestors was arrested and imprisoned for awhile for polygamy.
- Spencer W. Morgan I found a few of the names:
The photo caption reads:
"Polygamists in striped prison uniforms, including George Q. Cannon (center with cane), William Gimbert Saunders (second from right), and William Morley Black (right of Cannon with white beard). These men were also known as "Prisoners of Conscience."
Just for the record, the 8th Article of Faith is in no way related to political ideology:
Evidently, they derive something from the scripture that somehow justifies unlawful acts, as long as they feel good about it, or something like that.
BTW, it is Wilford Woodruff that is featured in the center.It just so happens that I have a my own "Prisoner of Conscience" photo that features my own ancestor, Peter Barton, seated, in the center of the photo. He served in the Utah State Senate for a term, and was the bishop of the Kaysville Ward for many years. I don't think he is a particularly good poster child for the cause of rebellion. He was the first polygamist to be pardoned by the Governor of Utah, for good behavior. What is seldom considered is that the Lord instructed the church about the practice, when they were supposed to observe it, and when is was to cease. The "Prisoners of Conscience" were all about obedience, not rebellion. Too many overlook this point.
When it is the will of the Lord for church members to disobey the law of the land, the Lord will make it known through the Prophet, and none other. This is not a principle of individualism, the noble one standing against Government oppression and tyranny. It is the principle of obedience and sacrifice, of sacred covenants with God. And to construe it as an example of rebellion and non-conformity for appearances is nothing more than mockery, of those faithful ones, and the Lord's laws.
Tuesday, October 02, 2012
LDS Liberty? I don't think so...
Here is another sample of LDS Liberty. I think it captures their core tenets.
Christopher Hansen says:
Romney is a Socialist. He proved it with his record in Massachusetts. Romney supports the 2nd, 5th and 10th planks of the Communist Manifesto. The man is just another twin evil Republican. The USA is done for. Put a fork in it. The members are apostate because over 90% are practicing Socialists today. The member apostasy predicted in the Book of Mormon has been well underway.
Members were repeatedly told they could not be faithful and socialists at the same time. They rejected this warning and have embraced the voluntary slavery of Socialist Security and Income taxes and paper money. Name a Mormon that does not voluntarily have a Socialist Security Number and voluntarily file and pay income taxes without even knowing the definition of the word “Dollar” or using the Religious Freedom Restoration Act to free himself/herself from voluntary slavery.
Put a fork in the Elders of Israel. They don’t even read the Constitution let alone know how to save it.
Romney will not change a thing. He was and will remain a Socialist and a puppet of the One Worlders just like most Mormons. Benson was right in Not Commanded in All Things. McKLay was right too.
“Next to being one in worshiping God, there is nothing in this world in which this Church should be more united than in upholding and defending the Constitution of the Unite States. If members of the Melchizedek Priesthood allow the U.S. Constitution to be destroyed, they not only forfeit their rights to the Priesthood, but to a place in this highest degree of glory as well.”
(David O. McKay, The Instructor, Feb. 1956, p.34)
By this statement most so-called Priesthood holders have lost their priesthood and forfeited their right to the Celestial Glory.
One of their popular mottoes - Disobedience to tyranny is obedience to God. These guys are comparing their rebellion to Daniel in the Lion's Den. To think that I was arguing with one of them the other day about whether Mitt Romney was narcissistic.
Is this really LDS Liberty?
I'm engaged in a controversy with an internet group, calling themselves "LDS Liberty". I think they are promulgating some false doctrine, and would prefer that they cease immediately. Individual Church members are welcome to form their own opinions on any subject, whatever interests them. But when they begin teaching their opinions as the "true" doctrine, I think it is time for some correction.
Below is the correspondence I have thus far exchanged. I will compile my complaints about their teaching and forward it to my bishop.
Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Why do bad things happen to good people?
Elder L. Whitney Clayton, October 2009 General Conference explains:
In a general sense, our burdens come from three sources. Some burdens are the natural product of the conditions of the world in which we live. Illness, physical disability, hurricanes, and earthquakes come from time to time through no fault of our own. We can prepare for these risks and sometimes we can predict them, but in the natural pattern of life we will all confront some of these challenges.
Other burdens are imposed on us by the misconduct of others. Abuse and addictions can make home anything but a heaven on earth for innocent family members. Sin, incorrect traditions, repression, and crime scatter burdened victims along the pathways of life. Even less-serious misdeeds such as gossip and unkindness can cause others genuine suffering.
Our own mistakes and shortcomings produce many of our problems and can place heavy burdens on our own shoulders. The most onerous burden we impose upon ourselves is the burden of sin. We have all known the remorse and pain which inevitably follow our failure to keep the commandments.
Elder Joseph B. Wirthlin, October 2008 General Conference, relates his personal philosophy as his mother's counsel:
"...come what may, and love it."
I think she may have meant that every life has peaks and shadows and times when it seems that the birds don’t sing and bells don’t ring. Yet in spite of discouragement and adversity, those who are happiest seem to have a way of learning from difficult times, becoming stronger, wiser, and happier as a result...
Learning to endure times of disappointment, suffering, and sorrow is part of our on-the-job training. These experiences, while often difficult to bear at the time, are precisely the kinds of experiences that stretch our understanding, build our character, and increase our compassion for others.
Because Jesus Christ suffered greatly, He understands our suffering. He understands our grief. We experience hard things so that we too may have increased compassion and understanding for others.
Alma 7:11-12 teaches us about why Christ understands our suffering:
...he shall go forth, suffering pains and afflictions and temptations of every kind; and this that the word might be fulfilled which saith he will take upon him the pains and the sicknesses of his people.
And he will take upon him death, that he may loose the bands of death which bind his people; and he will take upon him their infirmities, that his bowels may be filled with mercy, according to the flesh, that he may know according to the flesh how to succor his people according to their infirmities.
I know why there must be opposition in all things. Adversity, if handled correctly, can be a blessing in our lives. We can learn to love it.
Sunday, May 08, 2011
Wednesday, April 13, 2011
obituary
My father, Fredrick William Cobabe Sr., passed on to the spirit world today after a brief illness. He was 81 years old.
Out of 12 brothers and sisters, he is survived by his 2 brothers and one sister, his wife, Mary Cobabe, as well as 8 of their 9 children, 41 grandchildren, and 42 great-grandchildren. He leaves a rich legacy of wisdom, goodness, and virtue which were hallmarks of his life.
Ending a lifetime of unselfish service in the church, he goes forward to greater things.
Many will miss him.
Sunday, April 03, 2011
Friday, November 05, 2010
News...
I am currently takings classes at the technical college. I've concentrated my efforts on that, and getting lots of sleep.
I am trying to learn the tricks of MicrowSoft Word in the latest incarnation. But its hopeless. Now I am told that there is at 2010 release. It cannot be too much different from 2007 -- Can it?
I am currently takings classes at the technical college. I've concentrated my efforts on that, and getting lots of sleep.
I am trying to learn the tricks of MicrowSoft Word in the latest incarnation. But its hopeless. Now I am told that there is at 2010 release. It cannot be too much different from 2007 -- Can it?
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